bharat2008
08-09 04:36 PM
Thanks to everyone for providing your great inputs.I will work on applying to Australian immigration before they change the rules .
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extra_mint
01-15 03:11 AM
Well majority of the people on this thread and forum is finding this as just cause, I am totally for it.
However no one is sure if this logic will hold water. Well none of us are lawyers, thus our arguments for or against doesn't hold. Someone said at the start of this thread that let's consult some big lawyers.
People are ready to contribute (including me) and I personally think that IV Core will be the best forum to take this up with lawyers. They already have an existing network, have folks that have participated in efforts related to legal immigration,
To IV Core
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Country Quota is single biggest reason for retrogression, Have you guys (in the past) discussed with lawyers if removing Country Quota for EMPLOYMENT BASED can be legally challenged ??
If this has not been discussed do you guys think some one from lawyer forum (one that is on IV) can research on this ??
If above research shows things can be challenged then let's get it challenged through some esteemed lawyers !!
Also since so many people (once again including me) are ready to contribute, IV can become forum to raise money for this Legal challenge...like another pool.
I am sure people have talked, discussed about removing country quota in the past. However I am not sure if serious effort have been made to see if this can be challenged and that is the focus we all should have.
However no one is sure if this logic will hold water. Well none of us are lawyers, thus our arguments for or against doesn't hold. Someone said at the start of this thread that let's consult some big lawyers.
People are ready to contribute (including me) and I personally think that IV Core will be the best forum to take this up with lawyers. They already have an existing network, have folks that have participated in efforts related to legal immigration,
To IV Core
--------------
Country Quota is single biggest reason for retrogression, Have you guys (in the past) discussed with lawyers if removing Country Quota for EMPLOYMENT BASED can be legally challenged ??
If this has not been discussed do you guys think some one from lawyer forum (one that is on IV) can research on this ??
If above research shows things can be challenged then let's get it challenged through some esteemed lawyers !!
Also since so many people (once again including me) are ready to contribute, IV can become forum to raise money for this Legal challenge...like another pool.
I am sure people have talked, discussed about removing country quota in the past. However I am not sure if serious effort have been made to see if this can be challenged and that is the focus we all should have.
boston_gc
07-11 02:03 PM
I know there are many good lawyers. However. I think we should also tell in this forum about the lawyers to avoid or if anyone had any bad experiences with any specific law firm
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stuckinmuck
06-14 12:06 PM
Check with your lawyer but I believe there may be a grace period wherein they allow you to add your wife's name after 485 filing. In addition, there is a 4 year backlog in the family based green card process. 01-JUN-02 for FB-2A (India).
My pd is jan 2005 and i was waiting for the dates to become current.I am not married and will most probably get married by this year end[parents in the process of searching matches].my dilemma is whether to apply for 485 now or not.can i add my wife's name later on while the 485 is in the final stages of the process[say an year after the process began] or just before the green card is being dispatched etc so that both of us can get green cards.i dont want to miss this chance because i seriously feel that the dates might retrogress again.but if i apply and get a green card u all know how many years it will take to get wife to usa in family based immigration.somebody please clear my doubt.Thank you
My pd is jan 2005 and i was waiting for the dates to become current.I am not married and will most probably get married by this year end[parents in the process of searching matches].my dilemma is whether to apply for 485 now or not.can i add my wife's name later on while the 485 is in the final stages of the process[say an year after the process began] or just before the green card is being dispatched etc so that both of us can get green cards.i dont want to miss this chance because i seriously feel that the dates might retrogress again.but if i apply and get a green card u all know how many years it will take to get wife to usa in family based immigration.somebody please clear my doubt.Thank you
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ArkBird
06-27 01:33 PM
For the first time in my life being lazy is paying off for me.. Mine expires in August and I have not filed for the renewal so far... :D
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pappu
02-13 09:04 AM
A quick net-worth calculator:
Wakes up and decides more action is needed -------------> +10 pionts
Considers two options:
Become more active at IV and help shape and lead effort ---> worth +100 pts
Open a new venue for influencing our future ---------------> Also worth +100 pts
Finally settles on an easy three-pronged third way:
Trash current volunteer leaders ----------------------------> -500 points
Offer no new ideas on what can be done--------------------> -200 points
Use words such as "zapata" in a post -----------------------> -50 points.
Here's how you can say sorry: Add a mew member (or contribute a dollar) to IV for every -10 points you have earned.
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Wakes up and decides more action is needed -------------> +10 pionts
Considers two options:
Become more active at IV and help shape and lead effort ---> worth +100 pts
Open a new venue for influencing our future ---------------> Also worth +100 pts
Finally settles on an easy three-pronged third way:
Trash current volunteer leaders ----------------------------> -500 points
Offer no new ideas on what can be done--------------------> -200 points
Use words such as "zapata" in a post -----------------------> -50 points.
Here's how you can say sorry: Add a mew member (or contribute a dollar) to IV for every -10 points you have earned.
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gunabcd
07-17 09:37 PM
Please understand that your older PD is much more important because u would get ur gc that much earlier compared to 2005-07 people. Just because ppl are able to file 485 does not mean that they are going to take a number out of the quota for that year. The numbers are only taken during approval and hence they would all still be stuck in the same queue and you would have gotten an oppurtunity to file and possible get your GC too...take a deep breath, relax and think about this with a cool mind. I definitely do feel bad for you. My labor was stuck in BEC too and i left my company and joined a new one and restarted all over again. Been on H1 for seven years without ever getting any chance to file 485 until now...
Most people showing their cool wisdom still not getting the point. A BEC person with Feb 2005 PD may not be able to file for another 2 years while a PD 2007 person will be enjoying EAD during that time. In my dictionary this is injustice. And that's why i was kinda happy when they updated the July bulletin, now I'm not really happy even if my company has already filed my 485/EAD on july 2. I'm still wishing (and i'll be honest) USCIS come up with a reason/regulation/rule that will delay EAD for everyone until BEC people are able to file 485 OR in Oct they retrogress only till March 2005.
P.S. if you are superstitious, you want to know this: most of my relatives/freinds call me "Black Tongue" because usually when i say something unpleasent it happens. e.g. i told my wife last month that i don't believe everyone is able to file 485, something will go wrong and everyone will be disappointed. (when everyone expects something it does not happen- contrarian theory)
Most people showing their cool wisdom still not getting the point. A BEC person with Feb 2005 PD may not be able to file for another 2 years while a PD 2007 person will be enjoying EAD during that time. In my dictionary this is injustice. And that's why i was kinda happy when they updated the July bulletin, now I'm not really happy even if my company has already filed my 485/EAD on july 2. I'm still wishing (and i'll be honest) USCIS come up with a reason/regulation/rule that will delay EAD for everyone until BEC people are able to file 485 OR in Oct they retrogress only till March 2005.
P.S. if you are superstitious, you want to know this: most of my relatives/freinds call me "Black Tongue" because usually when i say something unpleasent it happens. e.g. i told my wife last month that i don't believe everyone is able to file 485, something will go wrong and everyone will be disappointed. (when everyone expects something it does not happen- contrarian theory)
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gk_2000
03-28 08:32 PM
No its not, this is the 3rd time I've seen you use that and similar signs.
Now Tony, unless you are lacking in any confidence, you wouldn't be acting out like a big baby here. Now shut the trap up and learn to ignore the irrelevant bickerings.
Now Tony, unless you are lacking in any confidence, you wouldn't be acting out like a big baby here. Now shut the trap up and learn to ignore the irrelevant bickerings.
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wizpal
07-02 09:34 AM
Rep. Smith hasn't made a stand on these bills yet and his support is instrumental. If you already called him..make follow up calls. More calls is always better.
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senthil1
06-19 05:01 PM
Companies were vague on numbers. So how could they satisfy Senators. I knew only a few companies gave detail about open positions including Microsoft, Intel and oracle. How you can impress Senate or house? But anti immigrants gave all the layoff numbers, h1b numbers used and details of abuses happened for past few years. It is not just money power will win. With facts and numbers if you have money power then you can win. That is reason for past 3 years H1b numbers or GC numbers were not increased inspite of heavy lobbying.
Wow!! Do all these Hi Tech companies(including the giant one I work for) not have any teeth in the system. Sanders gets an amendment, but nothing to change the stupid MBS provisions in favor of these companies. Pending further analysis or details not known yet, seems like we can safely join our friends at numbersusa and oppose this bill.
Wow!! Do all these Hi Tech companies(including the giant one I work for) not have any teeth in the system. Sanders gets an amendment, but nothing to change the stupid MBS provisions in favor of these companies. Pending further analysis or details not known yet, seems like we can safely join our friends at numbersusa and oppose this bill.
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mariner5555
03-15 06:09 AM
Group:
We need to do something for sure. I know that most of EB3 folks are stuck for GC more than 7-8 years. I don't see any good progress for EB3 in the future.
I would request from everyone to wake up and take a proactive step. I am ready to give any kind of support.
The problem is most of the EB3 people are happy with their EAD's. and I guess since EB2 looks promising now - they wont care much about EB3 or retro ..so I dont think anybody is going to wake up. maybe we should go to sleep too :)
We need to do something for sure. I know that most of EB3 folks are stuck for GC more than 7-8 years. I don't see any good progress for EB3 in the future.
I would request from everyone to wake up and take a proactive step. I am ready to give any kind of support.
The problem is most of the EB3 people are happy with their EAD's. and I guess since EB2 looks promising now - they wont care much about EB3 or retro ..so I dont think anybody is going to wake up. maybe we should go to sleep too :)
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kanakabyraju
07-13 08:51 AM
Thanks for replying MC. One more question. Can I send one combined check for my spouse and me?
you must send individual checks. Filing online is the best thing.
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sundevil
06-19 05:49 PM
It appears that way on the surface, but I think this is subject to country quota also. So until ROW EB3 clears(since EB2 ROW was current) possibly no spill overs. But the biggest problem with this 90K for 5 years is based on some math they did with pending LCs and 140s etc. However did they anticipate dependents numbers correctly which is unknown till 485 stage? What happens if the backlog is 450K + 100K(just an assumption) when dependent numbers are added? You wait 5 years and realize you were not cleared through this system because you were part of that additional 100K . Now you fight your battles in the point system with a country limit of 14K(10% of 140K). So there are about 70K(14K*5) numbers being used up in MBS during those 5 years for a given country, not sure if that is the saving grace for any kinks in the backlog reduction numbers, but you have to figure new people are coming in every year and will compete for these 14K Visa numbers. It will be 38K when Z visa holders become eligible, but that is still a lottery proposition at best. So this could be really bad for few unlucky ones. Even though we have 485 applications in the system, if the numbers do not work out a few people are gonna loose big time.
Best case scenario is that we all get through under the backlog reduction, but future generation from India/China will have to play lottery for GC's.
This year with overflows from ROW category, maybe 40K extra numbers were used for backlog reduction. Adding 10k for each china and India it makes the number 60K. Isnt 90K better than 60k (if we are lucky) under current system?
Best case scenario is that we all get through under the backlog reduction, but future generation from India/China will have to play lottery for GC's.
This year with overflows from ROW category, maybe 40K extra numbers were used for backlog reduction. Adding 10k for each china and India it makes the number 60K. Isnt 90K better than 60k (if we are lucky) under current system?
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Libra
11-15 12:11 PM
Guys, instead of fasting, protesting or marching, join state chapters and form big groups and then meet lawmakers. Request them for recapturing wasted visa numbers and removal of per country quota. this will solve most of our problems.
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Did that yesterday. Do we need to mention it here in order to get it accounted for?
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grupak
07-14 04:14 PM
Lot of us are happy with the new VB but the call campaign continues. Its very important. We still have lot of work to do.
We have to get the 3 immigration bills introduced with bi-partisan support.
Did you watch Lofgren video?
http://www.fastcompany.tv/video/the-geeky-congresswoman
Start watching from about 6 1/2 minutes.
Lets keep this thread on top.
We have to get the 3 immigration bills introduced with bi-partisan support.
Did you watch Lofgren video?
http://www.fastcompany.tv/video/the-geeky-congresswoman
Start watching from about 6 1/2 minutes.
Lets keep this thread on top.
sam_hoosier
11-15 04:04 PM
Doesn't it sound rude... they celebrate, feast and we fast. If we admire this country for giving us so much we should also show our support and adopt the culture and celebrate with them to show we are tax paying Americans who enjoy in American way.
We can show our protest by sending 1-wish for our own GC ( may be in the form of Christmas tree ornament) to all law makers. Everybody makes a wish and our wish is GC.
IMO, it is not rude but definitely brings out the irony of our positions.
We can show our protest by sending 1-wish for our own GC ( may be in the form of Christmas tree ornament) to all law makers. Everybody makes a wish and our wish is GC.
IMO, it is not rude but definitely brings out the irony of our positions.
rahulpaper
11-15 07:09 AM
I try to remind citizens (people i know) that they are offspring of immigrants...the point I struggle with is "how to convince them that they should actively support CURRENT LEGAL IMMIGRATION". Most of them feel that there is a system (which we know is broken) in place.
Maybe the discussion point should be LEGAL IMMIGRATION is normal phenomenon. The system is broken at multiple points (slow processes/supply-demand of visa numbers/wasted visa numbers/country limits etc). We are trying to FIX broken system and need voter group's support in that.
My request to you all is...bring awareness about inefficient broken system to everyone you meet...and we may have a chance of positive discussion.
I did sometime back.
Given thanksgiving is barely a week away, we can be certain of the usual platitudes directed at immigrants - this is a good time to remind the average American how far they have strayed from their roots and forgotten the true sentiment behind the tradition. Immigrants have always been hated and reviled by those that got here earlier - but the current anti-immigrant sentiment is vastly different in scale and sophistry due to the times we live in. If every IV member signs up 10 citizens to the immigrant cause, we should easily be 100,000 strong in a couple of weeks. It could be anyone from your advisor at school who mentored you to your buddies at work - even the stinkin relatives should be harassed. Though CIS and Numbersusa pretend that they are a product of the current anti-illegal sentiment, they started out much before the so-called 'wave' started. And they have adapted and honed their strategies very well to crush whatever relief Congress contemplates/passes. Consider the way CIS was initially dedicated to 'researching' immigrant issues that they would complain about the media's positive stories about immigrant contributions as merely anecdotal evidence not worthy of rebuttal. Now they are suddenly fond of anecdotal evidence themselves since experts began demolishing their claims of job-stealing and other baseless charges convincingly(esp CFR's Sebastian Mallaby) using empirical evidence-they shamelessly stoop to use someone's sob story to make their case. So, as repugnant as their motives are, they are too transparent for their own good- and they can't cover their tracks -which is good for us since we are appealing to the fair minded. Remember - every one in the US is an immigrant or an offspring of one. They have always been hated and reviled -so if someone who benefited from the immigrant tradition of this nation wants to turn around and deny it to those following him/her even though their ancestors did the same thing at a great emotional/economic cost to the then existing natives- they have a higher bar in explaining why the current bunch shouldn't continue to benefit from the great tradition-merely being bigoted but sophisticated enough to hide it isn't enough. so don't lose heart but dont sit on your ass either.
Maybe the discussion point should be LEGAL IMMIGRATION is normal phenomenon. The system is broken at multiple points (slow processes/supply-demand of visa numbers/wasted visa numbers/country limits etc). We are trying to FIX broken system and need voter group's support in that.
My request to you all is...bring awareness about inefficient broken system to everyone you meet...and we may have a chance of positive discussion.
I did sometime back.
Given thanksgiving is barely a week away, we can be certain of the usual platitudes directed at immigrants - this is a good time to remind the average American how far they have strayed from their roots and forgotten the true sentiment behind the tradition. Immigrants have always been hated and reviled by those that got here earlier - but the current anti-immigrant sentiment is vastly different in scale and sophistry due to the times we live in. If every IV member signs up 10 citizens to the immigrant cause, we should easily be 100,000 strong in a couple of weeks. It could be anyone from your advisor at school who mentored you to your buddies at work - even the stinkin relatives should be harassed. Though CIS and Numbersusa pretend that they are a product of the current anti-illegal sentiment, they started out much before the so-called 'wave' started. And they have adapted and honed their strategies very well to crush whatever relief Congress contemplates/passes. Consider the way CIS was initially dedicated to 'researching' immigrant issues that they would complain about the media's positive stories about immigrant contributions as merely anecdotal evidence not worthy of rebuttal. Now they are suddenly fond of anecdotal evidence themselves since experts began demolishing their claims of job-stealing and other baseless charges convincingly(esp CFR's Sebastian Mallaby) using empirical evidence-they shamelessly stoop to use someone's sob story to make their case. So, as repugnant as their motives are, they are too transparent for their own good- and they can't cover their tracks -which is good for us since we are appealing to the fair minded. Remember - every one in the US is an immigrant or an offspring of one. They have always been hated and reviled -so if someone who benefited from the immigrant tradition of this nation wants to turn around and deny it to those following him/her even though their ancestors did the same thing at a great emotional/economic cost to the then existing natives- they have a higher bar in explaining why the current bunch shouldn't continue to benefit from the great tradition-merely being bigoted but sophisticated enough to hide it isn't enough. so don't lose heart but dont sit on your ass either.
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