sadhimoorthy
07-03 03:37 PM
I spoke to a woman in the USCIS customer service and she doesnt know Jack. All she told was there wont be any further authorizations starting from June 02(as idf we dont know this. Teh whole world knows). They will put all the applicatiosn received on July 02 in hold and may start processing from Oc 01 2007. As i said earlier she knows jack about the probelm. If you ask more questions they simply say that they are only customer service and this is what they know. I asked who else should i contact to get more info and she told i have to contact them only. What an idiotic organization.
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kris04
09-12 09:26 PM
Hey guys
Just received email from CRIS regarding I-485 denial notice for both me and my wife.
I used AC21 after 9 months of filing I-485. My I-140 was approved before even filing I-485 in July fiasco.
My attorney promptly sent AC-21 and G-28 and i did see LUD on my and my wife's I-485 after that.
My previous company informed me sometime ago that they are going to revoke I-140 and probably they did and i am assuming that's what triggered this.
This is certainly a big damm mistake they did even after sending AC-21 docs and G-28.
sorry to hear about your new issue. Your case can be easily fought back, cheer up. My case was AC 21 and fortunately my I 485 was approved last month without any RFE, but before approval I spoke to NSC customer service and got hold off a very good guy , who happened to be very helpful, he mentioned that the letter requesting to port the employer or change of attorney need to be addressed to appropriate division, failure to do will cause all these problems, since it take time for the USCIS to route the letter to correct division and most likely getting lost. The only solution to address this kind of problem is to bring the much needed regulation to AC 21 , a formal application process where we can track the progress.
Cheer up, good luck
regards
kris
Just received email from CRIS regarding I-485 denial notice for both me and my wife.
I used AC21 after 9 months of filing I-485. My I-140 was approved before even filing I-485 in July fiasco.
My attorney promptly sent AC-21 and G-28 and i did see LUD on my and my wife's I-485 after that.
My previous company informed me sometime ago that they are going to revoke I-140 and probably they did and i am assuming that's what triggered this.
This is certainly a big damm mistake they did even after sending AC-21 docs and G-28.
sorry to hear about your new issue. Your case can be easily fought back, cheer up. My case was AC 21 and fortunately my I 485 was approved last month without any RFE, but before approval I spoke to NSC customer service and got hold off a very good guy , who happened to be very helpful, he mentioned that the letter requesting to port the employer or change of attorney need to be addressed to appropriate division, failure to do will cause all these problems, since it take time for the USCIS to route the letter to correct division and most likely getting lost. The only solution to address this kind of problem is to bring the much needed regulation to AC 21 , a formal application process where we can track the progress.
Cheer up, good luck
regards
kris
GCwaitforever
07-20 12:37 PM
Withdrawing funds from 401K before retirement is not a good idea. It is best to rollover the funds into an IRA at your bank.
By the way, after the Patriot act is passed, you can not maintain financial accounts in this country after you leave if you are on H-1B. Uncle Sam is afraid you will be financing Terrorists. Another sucker punch. Take it like a (wo)man. :D :D
Should we not ask for exemption from these forced penalties imposed by Government?
By the way, after the Patriot act is passed, you can not maintain financial accounts in this country after you leave if you are on H-1B. Uncle Sam is afraid you will be financing Terrorists. Another sucker punch. Take it like a (wo)man. :D :D
Should we not ask for exemption from these forced penalties imposed by Government?
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manish_jain99
07-18 05:32 PM
People were very happy with the last USCIS announcement but we all forgot about pain of people who are stuck in years of backlog. Though some of those unfortunate may have used harsh or improper language, but they had all the right to express their feelings. We all talk about Gandhian philosophy, but we need to be more tolerant. Before we ask to ban anyone from our forum, please try to put yourself in their shoes.
Our fight is far from over, we should all fight for for in-justice made to people who are trapped in the bureaucracy.
Our fight is far from over, we should all fight for for in-justice made to people who are trapped in the bureaucracy.
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JazzByTheBay
09-20 04:09 PM
Excellent idea!! Senior citizens are quite active politically and many of them are more mature given their age & experience. We should certainly take this one up...
jazz
One idea my American friend shared with me was to make presentations at retirement centers or community centers/ events. We need to be visible and our contribution to the country made known.
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jazz
One idea my American friend shared with me was to make presentations at retirement centers or community centers/ events. We need to be visible and our contribution to the country made known.
Wonderlust
santb1975
04-30 07:04 PM
We need $$ to be able to lobby and make things happen. Please do not hesitate now
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ashwin_27
05-20 08:02 PM
Contributed $100. Also forwarded message to several friends who arent even aware of IV.
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sapota
09-27 11:54 AM
I probablly know the answer to my own question, but would like to know other opinions. My lawyere tells me this. Since the dates were current when I filed for my I485 in July, the application will be processed regardless of what the dates are right now. Another words, he thinks that even though the dates are showing as 2002, my application will be processed since when we filed, they were current.
is this true. If so, then provided I pass background check in time, i should expect my GC in a year or so. but if I have to wait until 2002 Row becomes current, in my case 2005.. then I am majorlly scrwed...
thaughts.
Your application will be processed until the stage where a visa number is needed to adjudicate your case. Since EB3 (am assuming here) ROW is not current. Your app will wait until visa numbers for your category becomes current. In other words, your last sentence may be true. But not if you become vocal about your plight and fight for it through activism (i.e by supporting Immigration Voice).
is this true. If so, then provided I pass background check in time, i should expect my GC in a year or so. but if I have to wait until 2002 Row becomes current, in my case 2005.. then I am majorlly scrwed...
thaughts.
Your application will be processed until the stage where a visa number is needed to adjudicate your case. Since EB3 (am assuming here) ROW is not current. Your app will wait until visa numbers for your category becomes current. In other words, your last sentence may be true. But not if you become vocal about your plight and fight for it through activism (i.e by supporting Immigration Voice).
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legalVoice
07-06 12:57 PM
pass it around...it will make us forget our problems for a while
Good one :-)
:p
Well it would be easier to work with Oracle, Microsoft etc and get their support and provide your support to them.
Good one :-)
:p
Well it would be easier to work with Oracle, Microsoft etc and get their support and provide your support to them.
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kaisersose
07-14 01:41 PM
Repeating. - It would be interesting to see folks whoese PD is prior to Apr 2004 and still waiting for GC..Can you come forward.
You can check . Plenty of people waiting...
You can check . Plenty of people waiting...
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continuedProgress
10-09 05:39 PM
Folks - Avoid visanow.com (Chicago) as well
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czar_the_king
04-27 07:58 PM
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GO IV GO...
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harsh
03-17 10:41 AM
I also do not understand why H4 are not eligible for work permit. I think when they passed H1b, they did not lobby for H4's to have work permit as they probably did when they introduced L1/L2 and E1/E2 visas. The onus is on us H1b holders to ask for H4's to have work permit. So I hope IV adds this to their list of goals if it is not already one. Lot of people understand that current H1b limit is not enough so this could be a good option if they are reluctant to increase the H1b cap.
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senthil1
05-31 05:24 PM
It is better not to consider instead of coming and failing so that another chance to pass with modification
That's why there is a saying that you should never watch sausages and laws being made.
The Cantwell amendment and Lieberman amendment will fail to pass the vote. It doesnt matter whether its ordered to lie on table or whether its ordered to take a nap on the table or have some lemonade on the table. And it doesnt matter what any of those "Motion to... " means.
Both of those amendments, if debated, will fail. It will take 10 seconds for Bernie Sanders, Ted Kennedy and Dick Durbin to scream on top of their lungs and kill it. And the reason is very simple. There is a massive H1B exemption ON TOP OF 180,000 QUOTA. People who have been so successful this year so far in restricting H1 and employment based GCs are not going to miss that nice little H1 exemption at the bottom of both these amendments. So stop scratching your heads over what the "lying on table" means, because whatever is lying on table is unpassable if it somehow awakes from the table and starts dancing in the well of the senate floor.
That's why there is a saying that you should never watch sausages and laws being made.
The Cantwell amendment and Lieberman amendment will fail to pass the vote. It doesnt matter whether its ordered to lie on table or whether its ordered to take a nap on the table or have some lemonade on the table. And it doesnt matter what any of those "Motion to... " means.
Both of those amendments, if debated, will fail. It will take 10 seconds for Bernie Sanders, Ted Kennedy and Dick Durbin to scream on top of their lungs and kill it. And the reason is very simple. There is a massive H1B exemption ON TOP OF 180,000 QUOTA. People who have been so successful this year so far in restricting H1 and employment based GCs are not going to miss that nice little H1 exemption at the bottom of both these amendments. So stop scratching your heads over what the "lying on table" means, because whatever is lying on table is unpassable if it somehow awakes from the table and starts dancing in the well of the senate floor.
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HopeSprings
09-26 12:46 AM
Hope Spring,
Can you back your post with any links?
I recently talked with my lawyer and also took consulting (paid $$$ for hourly consulting) with another lawyer as I am going thru the same route. Both the attorney mentioned there was no problem doing ac21 for H1 while AOS was pending for > 180 days and 140 approved .
GCCovet
GCCovet,
It seems, you are right. One can possibly use H1 after using AC21. The incorrect post has been pulled back. Sorry, for the confusion.
Can you back your post with any links?
I recently talked with my lawyer and also took consulting (paid $$$ for hourly consulting) with another lawyer as I am going thru the same route. Both the attorney mentioned there was no problem doing ac21 for H1 while AOS was pending for > 180 days and 140 approved .
GCCovet
GCCovet,
It seems, you are right. One can possibly use H1 after using AC21. The incorrect post has been pulled back. Sorry, for the confusion.
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ufo2002
11-08 04:33 PM
Let me ask you the opposite question : How does NOT passing CIR help us ?
I bet you don't have a convincing answer for that. Therefroe, it follows that CIR (even if it is not ideal) will be better than no bill being passed.
And all those anti-CIR folks please get this : It does NOT give instant citizenship to anyone, nor does it put these folks ahead of us in the line. Thats just rhetoric from the likes of numbersUSA and lou dobbs blindly being parroted by some morons/idiots/imbeciles here. The core team had repeated this several times when CIR was under discussion. CIR is definitely not ideal for us because of the possibility of collateral effect from USCIS being overwhelmed, but is that worse than our current situation of waiting till retirement for our PDs to become current ?
As rheoretro mentioned in an earlier post "Burning someone else's house down is not going to help us build our own". That is particularly true for us .. those who who are against illegal aliens are also against high skilled legals with a few honorable exceptions like Cornyn and Kyl. If that wasnt the case, the house and the senate would have passed SKIL in a jiffy by now. Its best for us to remain neutral on the illegal alien issue .. and back it to the extent that it benefits us through a piggy back ride.
Actually I do have a convincing answer... whether or not that bill passes, we are in a lose-lose situation. I have read the bill (not in its entirety like I already stated). I know that the amnesty section already specified there will be no immediate granting of citizenship, excepting the wording for those who have been in this country for more than 5/6 years seems to imply they would get citizenship (again, the way a bill is worded can be twisted in future).
What I am worried about is, I get the feeling this is going to end up dipping into our EB3 pool... we previously had a Sched A for physicians and nurses that took numbers out of EB3 exclusively for them.
And I don't listen to Lou Dobbs or NumbersUSA rantings. But if you kept your ears open more than 6 months ago, you would also have heard some Dems says some not-so-friendly things about us.
One prominent Dem senator said H1-Bs are not suffering as much as illegals.
Another prominent Dem said this country needed more farm workers, not more IT / skilled ppl.
Have a nice day, anyway.
I bet you don't have a convincing answer for that. Therefroe, it follows that CIR (even if it is not ideal) will be better than no bill being passed.
And all those anti-CIR folks please get this : It does NOT give instant citizenship to anyone, nor does it put these folks ahead of us in the line. Thats just rhetoric from the likes of numbersUSA and lou dobbs blindly being parroted by some morons/idiots/imbeciles here. The core team had repeated this several times when CIR was under discussion. CIR is definitely not ideal for us because of the possibility of collateral effect from USCIS being overwhelmed, but is that worse than our current situation of waiting till retirement for our PDs to become current ?
As rheoretro mentioned in an earlier post "Burning someone else's house down is not going to help us build our own". That is particularly true for us .. those who who are against illegal aliens are also against high skilled legals with a few honorable exceptions like Cornyn and Kyl. If that wasnt the case, the house and the senate would have passed SKIL in a jiffy by now. Its best for us to remain neutral on the illegal alien issue .. and back it to the extent that it benefits us through a piggy back ride.
Actually I do have a convincing answer... whether or not that bill passes, we are in a lose-lose situation. I have read the bill (not in its entirety like I already stated). I know that the amnesty section already specified there will be no immediate granting of citizenship, excepting the wording for those who have been in this country for more than 5/6 years seems to imply they would get citizenship (again, the way a bill is worded can be twisted in future).
What I am worried about is, I get the feeling this is going to end up dipping into our EB3 pool... we previously had a Sched A for physicians and nurses that took numbers out of EB3 exclusively for them.
And I don't listen to Lou Dobbs or NumbersUSA rantings. But if you kept your ears open more than 6 months ago, you would also have heard some Dems says some not-so-friendly things about us.
One prominent Dem senator said H1-Bs are not suffering as much as illegals.
Another prominent Dem said this country needed more farm workers, not more IT / skilled ppl.
Have a nice day, anyway.
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amitjoey
06-14 12:48 PM
Congratulations to everyone whose dates have become current. To all gurus. I wanted to know as to how does it work when it comes to procesing I - 485, what dates are important is it the filing date, or the Priority date? If two people file at same time with different priority dates who gets priority, one with earlier priority date or one with earlier reciept notice date or will the cases be treated at same level.
Reciept date will not matter, as you can file on any day in the month of July. Earlier priority date will establish the preference. When dates retrogress, the PDs (priority dates) are again important. The date that is current will get the application processed first. Right now everybody can file, everybody will get EAD, AP but the actual application will be processed according the queue that is established with PD. I am not sure though. Check with lawyer.
Reciept date will not matter, as you can file on any day in the month of July. Earlier priority date will establish the preference. When dates retrogress, the PDs (priority dates) are again important. The date that is current will get the application processed first. Right now everybody can file, everybody will get EAD, AP but the actual application will be processed according the queue that is established with PD. I am not sure though. Check with lawyer.
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JisDeshMeinGangaBehthiHai
09-22 10:13 AM
Guys like you are not capable of comprehending the whole issue here and even if you are, you cannot articulate.
I just said i miss those good old days before coming to america was possible for masses. There is value as long as it is limited.
I did not look down up SW industry but loath these cheap desi companies who really raped this H1 visa program and the people standing on the streets of washington are the byproducts of that rape.There simply are not enough visa numbers. To increase them or not is that country's soverign right.And what rights are you talking about.A Visa is a privelege not a right.
Aunts and Uncles with Gifts is no reason for you to look down upon entire SW Industry. Remember ur handle "JISDESH......" is prospering because of this Industry. Your Uncles and Aunts didnt do anything to get "JISDESH..." to the position it is in today.
You probably dont deserve a response. I am not from SW industry and yes I have a double Masters but don't feel heart broken that these guys stood up for their rights!!!
I just said i miss those good old days before coming to america was possible for masses. There is value as long as it is limited.
I did not look down up SW industry but loath these cheap desi companies who really raped this H1 visa program and the people standing on the streets of washington are the byproducts of that rape.There simply are not enough visa numbers. To increase them or not is that country's soverign right.And what rights are you talking about.A Visa is a privelege not a right.
Aunts and Uncles with Gifts is no reason for you to look down upon entire SW Industry. Remember ur handle "JISDESH......" is prospering because of this Industry. Your Uncles and Aunts didnt do anything to get "JISDESH..." to the position it is in today.
You probably dont deserve a response. I am not from SW industry and yes I have a double Masters but don't feel heart broken that these guys stood up for their rights!!!
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abhijitp
02-12 05:56 PM
Hi Needhelp,
Why don't we do signature collection instead of collecting same letter templates from all people? Do we need to waste this much of paper?
Go Green !
Sorry if i hurt IV member feelings.
Kris
On that note, it's time this choked pipeline is cleaned up.
Every year, people are wasting more & more paper as they file, interfile, or renew applications;)
Why don't we do signature collection instead of collecting same letter templates from all people? Do we need to waste this much of paper?
Go Green !
Sorry if i hurt IV member feelings.
Kris
On that note, it's time this choked pipeline is cleaned up.
Every year, people are wasting more & more paper as they file, interfile, or renew applications;)
nk2006
09-15 10:37 AM
I think our argument is getting a bit too emotional and thought of letting it go but wanted to respond to a few points mentioned by you:
I was Dem leaning too, and I liked Hillary. But Obama has in no way been running the honorable campaign. He is using others to do his dirty job, if you think otherwise, you too have been sold on the propaganda of the left.
yesterday i was reading a commentary by Karl Rove, even he said that McCain's ads went too far. I think that says enough (BTW Karl Rove is master republican strategist whose tactics are famously credited for Bush's second term win - him commenting negatively on a republican candidate and saying that ads are going too far - it wont happen everyday unless they really went toooooo far). I havnt yet seen any sleaze tactics from dem side (yet..atleast).
when obama made a sexist remark, what did the press do? Nothing. I dont know which comment you are talking about. In presidential election time journos wait for a little gaffe and make it out of proportion - even so I dont remember any offending "sexist" comment yet. If you are referring to "lipstick on pig" comment - its laughable to see republican pundits trying to imply that is referring to Palin - he was talking about the new found "change" message and how their new campaing wont change their old policies. Incidentally McCain seems to have made the exact same comment on Hillary herself during primary season. Yeah the same press was sleeping then.
Let us see what happens if his opposition makes a even a hint of racist remark. I am sure then that the republican campaign will be pounded by every media outlet in the country.
Dont even mention about race. We all know that Obama's race is to his disadvantage - just ask elder white voters from south about the prospect of voting to a black candidate named barack obama - whether they say it explicitly or not we all know in our hearts that race does play a role in voting and it is to his disadvantage (I was listening to an NPR public forum where some people insist that Obama is muslim and that is their main concern - this despite of repeated clarifications from him saying that he is a christian and despite of a major controversy surrounding his christian pastor; I wonder if same suspicions would have persisted if its a white candidate named John Smith). The notion created by some pundits that Obama is trying to exploit his race towards his advantage is idiotic in my opinion. Being a racial minority myself with a strange name and an exotic religion (struggling to get a greencard :)) I know what it would have been taken for Obama to came to this stage. I cringe when people suggest that his success is "because" of his race - it is actually in spite of his race and in spite of his poor background (he came from even poorer background than most of members here I guess, he and his mother lived on food stamps for some time). Yes media might have gone overboard about his candidature at some point during primaries - but that honeymoon is long over and in fact these days McCain/Palin are getting a free ticket.
Again, not to say I like republican ideology, I am very left leaning in my thoughts and actions. However at this time, I see that majority of the left is leaning towards Obama just for the sake of leaning towards left, and not on the merits of candidacy.
As I mentioned earlier I am a non-voter, so dont have much stake in this election (considering my GC stage I wont be voting to either of these candidate's second term too). I was just referring to the two candidates and who is running a better campaign. As an independent observer (though slightly dem leaning as you:)) of presidential politics for last several years - I think in the last two elections - trivial/non-sensical matters overshadowed real issues and look what state the country is in. The reason for those two elections getting into trivial issues is not coincidental or is it a fluke. The propaganda artists dominate and try to "manipulate" people opinion. This time I thought it would be different and seemed different for sometime but last couple weeks the same tactics came back and they are firmly followed by McCain without even regretting. That is sad.
If I have had a vote, I would have thought about issues like economy, war, immigration, health care, et al and decided whom to vote. Republicans know that if people think seriously about these issues they would lose - that is why they are concentrating on personalities and slowly and systematically making Obama the villain who support sex education to kindergarteners, who raised gas prices even though they are ruling for last eight years and their candidate in the senate for 30 years (whose experience they tout), etc. If personalities is the only criterion, I have to say that I like Obama more since I appreciate the way he rose out of poverty and got great education and despite of lure of earning money (whose pull is more for someone coming out of poor background) he choose to be a community organizer. McCain has a pretty good story himself but he is from a affluent family with political ambitions cultivated from beginning and was taken under wings by bigwigs from early his career - it is nothing wrong but I like a self-made man who can inspire youth and old alike.
On expereince, just having experience is of no use. A president is someone who leads and inspires the nation - he/she does need to have enough experience to allow people judge him - being a state senator and federal senator and being in the national limelight for last 5 years and being under intense media attention for last 18 months, Obama has enough experience to allow people make decision about him. What is the use of having hundred years experience without able to inspire handful of people - lets say Sen. Sessions with hundred years of experience (not exactly but close to) runs for president does he make a good candidate??? Dont you think that Obama has shown enough leadership and inspirational fire in the primaries to be eligible to where he is now.
Both candidates changed their positions and its fair game to discuss - its also good to discuss their stands on various issues (personally I would like to know their stand on immigration in general and EB in particular - but I am sure they both would avoid talking about that) - the thing is, last couple weeks from the time Palin came into picture - issues have taken backseat and republicans seems to be enjoining that. They seems to be following the same tactics that put them in power in last two elections (in '00 the pundits exhorting people to vote for someone with whom they can have a beer with; and then exploit voting and results in one particular state; and in '04 putting mini referundums on gay marriages while the country was in a war and then swift-boat the other candidate) and unfortunately it seems to be working again.
I was Dem leaning too, and I liked Hillary. But Obama has in no way been running the honorable campaign. He is using others to do his dirty job, if you think otherwise, you too have been sold on the propaganda of the left.
yesterday i was reading a commentary by Karl Rove, even he said that McCain's ads went too far. I think that says enough (BTW Karl Rove is master republican strategist whose tactics are famously credited for Bush's second term win - him commenting negatively on a republican candidate and saying that ads are going too far - it wont happen everyday unless they really went toooooo far). I havnt yet seen any sleaze tactics from dem side (yet..atleast).
when obama made a sexist remark, what did the press do? Nothing. I dont know which comment you are talking about. In presidential election time journos wait for a little gaffe and make it out of proportion - even so I dont remember any offending "sexist" comment yet. If you are referring to "lipstick on pig" comment - its laughable to see republican pundits trying to imply that is referring to Palin - he was talking about the new found "change" message and how their new campaing wont change their old policies. Incidentally McCain seems to have made the exact same comment on Hillary herself during primary season. Yeah the same press was sleeping then.
Let us see what happens if his opposition makes a even a hint of racist remark. I am sure then that the republican campaign will be pounded by every media outlet in the country.
Dont even mention about race. We all know that Obama's race is to his disadvantage - just ask elder white voters from south about the prospect of voting to a black candidate named barack obama - whether they say it explicitly or not we all know in our hearts that race does play a role in voting and it is to his disadvantage (I was listening to an NPR public forum where some people insist that Obama is muslim and that is their main concern - this despite of repeated clarifications from him saying that he is a christian and despite of a major controversy surrounding his christian pastor; I wonder if same suspicions would have persisted if its a white candidate named John Smith). The notion created by some pundits that Obama is trying to exploit his race towards his advantage is idiotic in my opinion. Being a racial minority myself with a strange name and an exotic religion (struggling to get a greencard :)) I know what it would have been taken for Obama to came to this stage. I cringe when people suggest that his success is "because" of his race - it is actually in spite of his race and in spite of his poor background (he came from even poorer background than most of members here I guess, he and his mother lived on food stamps for some time). Yes media might have gone overboard about his candidature at some point during primaries - but that honeymoon is long over and in fact these days McCain/Palin are getting a free ticket.
Again, not to say I like republican ideology, I am very left leaning in my thoughts and actions. However at this time, I see that majority of the left is leaning towards Obama just for the sake of leaning towards left, and not on the merits of candidacy.
As I mentioned earlier I am a non-voter, so dont have much stake in this election (considering my GC stage I wont be voting to either of these candidate's second term too). I was just referring to the two candidates and who is running a better campaign. As an independent observer (though slightly dem leaning as you:)) of presidential politics for last several years - I think in the last two elections - trivial/non-sensical matters overshadowed real issues and look what state the country is in. The reason for those two elections getting into trivial issues is not coincidental or is it a fluke. The propaganda artists dominate and try to "manipulate" people opinion. This time I thought it would be different and seemed different for sometime but last couple weeks the same tactics came back and they are firmly followed by McCain without even regretting. That is sad.
If I have had a vote, I would have thought about issues like economy, war, immigration, health care, et al and decided whom to vote. Republicans know that if people think seriously about these issues they would lose - that is why they are concentrating on personalities and slowly and systematically making Obama the villain who support sex education to kindergarteners, who raised gas prices even though they are ruling for last eight years and their candidate in the senate for 30 years (whose experience they tout), etc. If personalities is the only criterion, I have to say that I like Obama more since I appreciate the way he rose out of poverty and got great education and despite of lure of earning money (whose pull is more for someone coming out of poor background) he choose to be a community organizer. McCain has a pretty good story himself but he is from a affluent family with political ambitions cultivated from beginning and was taken under wings by bigwigs from early his career - it is nothing wrong but I like a self-made man who can inspire youth and old alike.
On expereince, just having experience is of no use. A president is someone who leads and inspires the nation - he/she does need to have enough experience to allow people judge him - being a state senator and federal senator and being in the national limelight for last 5 years and being under intense media attention for last 18 months, Obama has enough experience to allow people make decision about him. What is the use of having hundred years experience without able to inspire handful of people - lets say Sen. Sessions with hundred years of experience (not exactly but close to) runs for president does he make a good candidate??? Dont you think that Obama has shown enough leadership and inspirational fire in the primaries to be eligible to where he is now.
Both candidates changed their positions and its fair game to discuss - its also good to discuss their stands on various issues (personally I would like to know their stand on immigration in general and EB in particular - but I am sure they both would avoid talking about that) - the thing is, last couple weeks from the time Palin came into picture - issues have taken backseat and republicans seems to be enjoining that. They seems to be following the same tactics that put them in power in last two elections (in '00 the pundits exhorting people to vote for someone with whom they can have a beer with; and then exploit voting and results in one particular state; and in '04 putting mini referundums on gay marriages while the country was in a war and then swift-boat the other candidate) and unfortunately it seems to be working again.
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04-26 09:04 PM
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